Hi everyone, about around a year ago I posted stats about song productions and credits for Boy groups. It was one of my first post and I’m not totally satisfied by it. Here is the post if you want to go back to it : Previous post I had some time I decided to Update it and deepen my research a bit.
First some disclaimer :
1/ This is something I do to satisfy my curiosity about Kpop and I don’t pretend this is exhaustive nor perfect. I choose the groups based on popularity, on groups known as involved in the production side and in personal interest.
2/ In no way is this a attack or criticism against the groups with few or no credits. Every groups has its own way of being an idol and there is no right or wrong way. (I’m a fan of Enhypen almost as much as I’m a fan of Stray Kids and Day6).
3/ This is a Boy Group version because this is taking me so much time and I wanted to post it quickly. I may post the Girl Group version later if you are interested.
4/ I choose to start at 2nd Gen groups because I didn’t find a lot of reliable data on 1st Gen groups. I added a few of the older 5th gen group but only a few because I need a significant number of songs so the stats can show a pattern. I also decided not to add any group that has no involvement in song production because a column full of zero isn’t very interesting.
5/ It’s not fully accurate because some company are not fully clear on credits and other don’t make a difference between Composing and Arranging (Hybe manly but It’s the case for a lot of other).
My sources are principally the KOMCA site (korean association for copyright), only taking into account groups songs (no solo, no solo OST but group OST and Sub-Unit are taken into account) : https://www.komca.or.kr/foreign2/eng2/K0101.jsp
Some quick explanation :
- Lyrics (A on the KOMCA site) : the idol participated in writing the lyrics of the song
- Composing (C on the KOMCA site) : the idol participated in creating the topline of the song, this is the melody of the song mostly.
- Arranging (AR on the KOMCA site) : the idol participated in creating the beats of the songs
- Only Credits : the members are the only one who contributed to this part of song production
The groups my stats :
- 2nd Generation : 2PM, B.A.P, B1A4, Bigbang, Block B, CN Blue, Highlight (Ex BEAST), Shinee, TVXQ!
- 3rd Generation : BTOB, BTS, Day6, Exo, GOT7, Ikon, Monsta X, NCT, Pentagon, Seventeen, VIXX, Winner
- 4th Generation : AB6IX, Ateez, Cravity, Enhypen, Oneus, P1Harmony, Stray Kids, The Boyz, Treasure, TXT, Xdinary Heroes
- 5th Generation : BoyNextDoor, Evnne, Xikers
Here is the link to the summary of the stats: Stats Summary
For the brave or the fan of statistics (you never know), you can find a the basis for the summary (very detailed) : Song prod details
Some of my conclusions :
- A lot of groups, particularly among the most popular ones, are involved at least partially into the song production process.
- While 2nd Gen group where already involved in song production, it seems to be increasing in the 3rd and 4th gen.
- Idols are mostly involved in the lyrics writing and sometimes in composing but very few group are involved in the arrangement in theirs songs.
- While it’s common for groups to have songs with members being the only ones writing the lyrics, when speaking about composing it’s less common and even rare when speaking about arrangement.
- While some groups are involved in the process since debut like Stray Kids, Xikers or Seventeen, a lot of group grow more involved with time, it’s the case for BTOB, GOT7 and 2PM for example
- Within group most of the time you have 1 to 3 members highly involved and the other with a credits, It’s really rare to have all members contribute to the production aspects of the songs. There is only one group (with a generally high level of implication into song production) where all the members are almost equally involved : Xdinary Heroes. Xikers is also interesting because while not all of the members are involved the three that are have the exact same number of credits which isn’t the case in any other groups.
- The most involved members are most of the time the main rappers and lead rapper of their groups for exempla Zico, RM and Hongjoong. An exception is for example Seventeen’s Woozi (Lead Vocalist).
- While it’s common to have the producers members to be involved in a big part of the group discography, only Minjae, Sumin and Yechan of Xikers are credits on all of their groups songs. They are also cases of idols with a lot of credits but a low involvement in their group discography. One example is Jun.K of 2PM who has 110 credits but appear only on 28 2PM songs (14% of the groups songs).
- Some companies seems to promote or prefer group involved in the song production process for example JYP, YG, FNC or CUBE and other companies seems to have group with little involvement like SM or BELIFT.
- Kpop songs are rarely written by the members on their own and in average, there is 3 collaborators not including the members for each songs. But they are some groups who have songs without any collaborators (but sometimes there is no arrangement credits on those songs), it’s the case for : 2PM, BigBang, Highlight, CN Blue, B1A4, BTS, Seventeen, Day6, BTOB, Pentagon, VIXX, Stray Kids and Treasure.
- In looking at a group discography, you’ll usually find recurring one. It’s usually in house producers present in the discography of the groups of a same company. Some example are Hong Jisang for JYP (worked with Stray Kids, Day6, Xdinary Heroes, etc…), Eddenary for KQ (Ateez and Xikers) or Slow Rabbit for Hybe (TXT, Enhypen, etc.).
Top 10 group involvement (in percentage of songs with a least one member credited) :
| Rank | Lyrics | Composition | Arrangement |
|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Winner 100% | Stray Kids 96% | Stray Kids 35% |
| 2 | Stray kids 100% | Winner 95% | B1A4 30% |
| 3 | Seventeen 98% | Day6 92% | BTOB 26% |
| 4 | P1Harmony 95% | CN Blue 88% | Highlight 22% |
| 5 | Day6 93% | Seventeen 88% | Monsta X 21% |
| 6 | B.A.P 92% | BTS 85% | CN Blue 18% |
| 7 | Ikon 91% | Ikon 82% | Ateez 15% |
| 8 | Xikers 88% | BoyNextDoor 76% | B.A.P 9% |
| 9 | Treasure 88% | Pentagon 72% | Block B 8% |
| 10 | Monsta X 88% | Xdinary Heroes 72% | VIXX 8% |
I hope you all find this as interesting as I did while compiling it.
And if you have any question, leave a comment and i’ll try to respond quickly.
DoC ^.^
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