Riizes concept: They have the misfortune of coming after some of sms most conceptually driven groups. Exo, red velvet, nct, aespa. Correct me if I’m from but pre-exo (maybe not fx) was not pulling out these extremely identifiable concepts and lore from the jump but were able to build their own identity/brand overtime. I think that’s the big difference, having strong branding from the jump that makes them stand out to build on vs slightly weaker and more generic concepts at the start and then building on it. So in other words give riize time to build their brand. And that also kind of applies to their music, sm has made it clear that they want to pivot towards more gp friendly music and i feel like a lot of sm stans are not used to that which you know yeah there’s a somewhat noticeable change is sms music released across the board post like 2022-2023 but whatever the music is good different topic different time who cares, as for their bsides if some of them sound like nct, exo, tvxq… yeah they are an sm group. Nct, aespa, exo… they are all the same way you could find a handful of songs in everyone’s discography that could slip into someone else’s. With that being said each of these groups still have their own identifiable sounds.
Seunghan nct?: The main reason sm has been so trigger happy with riize particularly compared to past groups is because they are the first group without lsm so there was a lot riding on them to prove to all these longtime shareholders that they didn’t just boot their gold ticket. So when people are like this wouldn’t have gotten so bad if he debuted in nct, yeah it would not have. They are a senior group with a seasoned fandom that has weather MANY storms and at this point there’s not much riding on them. They’re good for some quick cash but sm has long since been uninterested in investing them. This stuff would have blown over with far less collateral. But also the sungtaro (and the rookies) would have been better off in nct crowd, who knows does it matter at this point. They killed it in nct and theyre crushing it in riize it’s not an nct vs riize the company is the problem, both groups clearly have their own headaches.
Seunghan solo: Idk why people expected that to come out this year? Is his time being wasted yes is it a super shitty position also yes, he could have completed enlistment by now. However sm (main company) doesn’t typically debut soloist from the jump. Looking at nct those guys have all been at it, working on music for years, building connections, forming their own teams, developing their own identities… like i could have told you what every one of the neos solos concept and sound were going to be and thats on account of their long history. Which also gives sm a pretty good starting ground for developing their solos. Seunghan doesn’t have that so it’s going to take longer and is also just the pecking order. Whoever is deemed more profitable is gonna get priority.
Contracts: The main stress behind all their senior artists leaving isn’t so much the fact that they are leaving it’s that they are being visibly treated better and arguably are just as successful in music.
submitted by /u/Inevitable-Power-232
[link] [comments]
