Don’t you think that BTS and BSH relationship is actually similar to MHJ and NJ relationship?
The system where idols are dependent on producers so heavily that they can’t quit even if they wanted to and also are in semi toxic relationship where they are grateful for them to make them successful?
Maybe it’s a norm in K-pop but I think part of the business is getting people who are trainable instead of truly talented and experienced seems to be more important. Then after they follow the producers/CEOs recipe they basically can’t quit because what they know is how to follow instructions. It’s like school when you learn 10 subjects. You may be better and some and worse and some but don’t have a time to focus intensely on one. Therefore never master it completely.
I remember that in one survival show while judging one contestant someone said “he should be an artist not K-pop idol” and that kida stayed with me.
I mean aside from RM and Suga who actually did some music before joining BigHit other members were either not experienced or dancers.
Not experienced can be trained to do what company wants them to do and dancers unfortunately have an expiration date. If they get older they cannot perform as they used to so they also have to follow the company ideas.
As far as I remember only RM and Suga wanted to do something related to music strongly but I would say they were forced to be Pop when they wanted to be more of a hip-hop. So basically before Hybe they were under BSH and when Hybe was created BSH said bye bye here you have good western producers and good luck.
No wonder their music is not the same if BSH and other Korean producers is not managing it how they used too. Don’t get me wrong RM and Suga maybe also J-Hope knows something about producing but I think it works more for their solo stuff rather then group music. Although they claim to be self produced I bet BSH and other producers were mostly saying what works and what doesn’t.
If NJ didn’t get into battle with Hybe I think it would ended up the same and actually many if not majority of Hybe groups seems to be heavily dependent on producers. “Follow the instructions but don’t get too independent and too good at something because they you would want to go solo” type of manipulation.
That makes this toxic relationship where they don’t have a choice but to follow and probably won’t realise it until they get to old to be considered trendy. Then after few years idols are left on their own and forgotten by companies hopefully by then they will earn some money and gain popularity because if not it’s basically free labour for companies.
I think from Hybe only Seventeen would be able to go “solo” and survive because they have Woozi but who knows.
I don’t know much about other companies. I think with JYP it may be similar. SM too but at least they were teaching them well how to sing. YG is case by case but it seems that artists have a bit more knowledge about producing music. At least boy groups. Nowadays it may be different though. I don’t know.
It’s weird that only MHJ&NJ relationship is shown as clearly toxic but honestly I think it’s similar for many many groups in K-pop. NJ were just too popular too quickly so brainwashing mechanisms worked even better.
What do you think?
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